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The John G Clark Park Neighborhood of Champaign, Illinois, USA


John Street Watershed Drainage

                        

Storm Water reformulation of the Golden Rule

When you're knee-deep in water on your otherwise dry and taxable plot, you probably want the excess water to go away as quickly as possible. So when you look to your neighbors downhill, you think "Here, take this water faster". But when you look uphill, you say "Don't send that water at me so fast". So although it seems a good idea to drain the storm water away quickly, it's only a good idea if there's adequate capacity downstream in the drains and retention areas indended to hold the water. So, in other words:

Drain unto others as you would have others Drain unto you.

I would argue that increasing downstream capacity is one way to ease flooding, but we should also promote ways of holding excess water upstream as long as we can. So rather than just paving an expanded driveway, or build an addition or garage, also consider putting in a water garden or adding rain barrels. No matter how much we increase the size of our storm sewers, there will be storms that overflow them, so if your yard has a natural overflow path for storm water, don't block it with your new garage or addition or fence or berm. Instead, design to hold the rain water and let it charge the soil, and keep your trees and garden well watered. -- Mike Feldman 2009-Feb-26 22:30

Neighborhood Meeting

Post-meeting update: there were about 50 people at the meeting in addition to 4 city staff members and 2 city council members. Steering committee member Milt Forsberg made opening remarks and introductions and turned it over to Public Works engineers Alex Nagy and Eleanor Blackman who gave Drainage 101 and covered city iniatives to deal with flooding in recent years. Questions and comments revolved around a focus of flooding along John St. at Lynn and Elm, and about the proposal to enlarge the storm sewer that runs under John St. from Willis to Neil St. There were calls to complete the flooding survey either on paper or online (see below), to send Alex photos of flooding (and to me for this website), and to participate in the steering committee. City staff will present Drainage Master Plan at a city council study session the evening of Tues April 14.
-- Mike Feldman 2009-Feb-25 23:20

Neighborhood Drainage Informational Meeting
Wednesday, February 25th, 2009
7:00 - 9:00 p.m.
South Side School Gym
712 S. Pine Street

This meeting will provide an overview of the flooding problem and how we are planning to ease this situation. There will be an opportunity for questions. Please mark your calendar and plan to attend. You can use this printable version of the February 25th Meeting Flyer (PDF) as a reminder - place it on your refrigerator or wherever you place reminders.

Reasons to Attend:
- City Public Works Staff will explain issues about our storm and sanitary drainage
- Update on Clark-Dietz Drainage Study - Learn about recommendations
- Return your questionnaire
- Get involved with the Steering Committee

Survey

The flooding survey from September 2008 is being redistributed to residents of the John Street Watershed east of Prospect Avenue.

A printable copy of the survey is here (PDF).

An online version of the survey is here (Google spreadsheet).

We need your input on any flooding you experienced in your home. Please complete the survey questionnaire above either online or print it and bring it to the meeting, mail it, or drop it off at locations listed on the form.

The John Street Watershed Drainage Steering Committee

You can send email to the whole committee at mailto:Drainage-steering@lists.clarkpark.gidnoy.com.

Current committee members are Steve Cochran, Mike Feldman, Milt Forsberg, Brian Knox, Kim Nystrom, Tom O'Rourke, Pattsi Petrie, Taya Ross, Barb Strauss, David Swinford, and Nancy Taylor.

Drainage Mailing List

Join the mailing list for the drainage, ponding, and backflow issues at http://lists.clarkpark.gidnoy.com/listinfo.cgi/drainage-clarkpark.gidnoy.com. The list is set up so that subscriptions must be acknowledged via email confirmation, and approved by a list administrator. The list membership is visible only to members. The list archives are visible to the public.

30 Oct 2008:

Nancy, Tom, Steve and Mike met to review Flooding Survey results that Tom collected, analyzed and summarized.

15 Oct 2008:

There was a neighborhood meeting with the City of Champaign Public Works Department on 15 Oct 2008.

15 Oct 2008 meeting at Westview School

Neighborhood Wellness

A 2006 neighborhood wellness study shows drainage problems, but not the Clark Park Daniel-Willis or John-Prospect problems.

05 Oct 2008:

There will be a neighborhood meeting Wednesday, 15 October 2008 from 7:00 to 9:00 PM at Westview School. This will inform people of background of problem, what Public Works has done so far to address problems, and the status of the Clark-Dietz study on storm sewers serving the neighborhood. A seering committee will be formed and formalized as a means for City/Neighborhood communication with timely status updates. A survey and meeting announcement will be mailed to people within the watershed by Public Works by Oct. 6th. The survey will bring City staff up to date with issues in the area and allow people to document their problems.

14 Sept 2008: Hurricane Ike remnant

A cold front and Hurricane Ike dumped something like 4.3 inches of rain on us.
There were lots of complaints of the sanitary sewer surcharging into basements.
A sewer manhole cover popped open with sewage flowing into Willis.


Here's the height of the rainstorm Sunday morning.

Historic

Barbara Kucera's photos of the John and Prospect intersection after the 9 July 2003 storm which totaled 5 3/4 inches in 24 hours.

Kurt Baumgartner's photos after the 6 July 2004 storm which dropped an inch of rain in an hour.



Latest News

28 April 2005, wee hrs -- Mike Feldman

We had a meeting with Public works back on the 7th of April. Here are Alex Nagy's meeting minutes.

On Wednesday the 20th we got over an inch an hour of rain late in the afternoon and 2.24 inches over the 24 hour period. The Daniel and Willis intersection filled up quickly and drained quickly. No one reported any back-flow from the storm drain into their basement in the 900 block of Daniel, so the check-valve seems to be working.

12 January 2005 8:25 AM -- Mike Feldman
I can hear the jackhammer -- they're working on the NE corner.

Note that rainfall maps are now online from the Water Survey.

11 January 2005 -- Mike Feldman
In December the City Jet Rodded and TV inspected the storm drains at Daniel and Willis, and removed a couple of streetlight ground rods that had been driven through the drain tile. Alex from Public Works reports that contruction company, A&R Services, will start soon to add larger inlets and a check valve.

Tonight we had enough rain (over an inch) on saturated ground to cause my basement floor drain to back up (surcharge); here's photos with and without a PVC pipe in place to block the drain:
Floor drain with standpipe plug
Floor drain without standpipe plug
This is what I hope the check valve will prevent.


Recent News

9 November 2004 -- Mike Feldman
Added photos from July 2003.

28 October 2004 -- Mike Feldman

City of Champaign Public Works Department reports that construction of enlarged storm drain inlets at the corner of Daniel and Willis will occur in November 2004. This is being done as an attempt to reduce the amount and duration of flooding in the intersection although it is not clear if it will help, hurt, or make little difference. If the enlargement makes the flooding worse, it can be restricted or undone. The work is being done out of the current Public Works budget and does not envolve any additional assessments to property owners.

In addition to the inlet enlargement, and if there is no serious objection from any of the property owners adjacent to the intersection and on the 900 block of West Daniel Street, the City proposes a test installation of an anti-backflow device on the storm drain pipe where it enters the collection box in the intersection. Again, the cost is covered by the inlet improvement budget, and can be removed or disabled if problems result.

An example of the duckbill type of check-valve can be seen at one manufacturer's webpage (not necessarily the proposed vendor). Further discussion is at the drainage mailing list archive.


Meeting with City
Mike Feldman's quick notes from the meeting with the city Public Works engineer.

On Tuesday evening 28 September 2004 a neighborhood committee will meet with the Champaign Public Works staff to discuss the drainage issue. I'll post a summary here later this week. If you want a specific issue discussed, please contact Nancy or Mike or send it to the mailing list (see below).
On-Air Discussion
On Sunday, 5 September 2004, I (Mike) was a guest of David Monk and Bill Saylor on the WEFT FM 90.1 radio program The Prairie Monk (near the bottom of the page). Our discussion was to preview the drainage issue and set up a later show where we can include other neighbors in the discussion. We hope to go into some depth on the drainage issue and I hopefully will be able to provide the listener some supporting material via this website. The upcoming show is tentatively next Monday, 3 October 2004, from 11:00 AM to noon. If you would like to hear the Sep 5th show, I've put an MP3 audio file here. The recording is 27 minutes long and the drainage issue starts around minute 11 which is a little less that half way, so you can skip over the chat about me at the beginning.
Survey Mailing
On 10 September 2004 a survey was mailed to the neighborhood. As of Sep 20 13 forms had been returned.

Background

Storm water drainage has been a longstanding problem in the neighborhood, and on 24 August, 2004, staff of the City of Champaign Public Works Department presented a report on the drainage problem (PDF) to the City Council, and residents were given an opportunity to comment. The mayor urged the neighborhood to form a citizen's committee to work with the city staff. Daily Illini story is a stale link; I couldn't find a News-Gazette story online.

If anyone has photos or other information that you would allow me to link to this page, or would provide a copy for this site, please contact me through the mailing list or directly.

-- Mike Feldman - 29 Aug 2004


Here's a bird's eye view drawing of Champaign from 1884 that shows the stream running through the modern John and Prospect intersection.

1884 Birds-eye-view of west Champaign

Here's a 1913 map of showing the Chamber of Commerce addition. I've drawn in where the stream was and ponding is.

1913 map of west Champaign


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